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IndecentOpinion
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Posted: 21 August 2006 07:20 am |
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A lot of us have given mini-reviews of numerous diet pills and their effects, but I'm curious to know what everyone's top picks are for what has worked best for you.
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gracy
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Posted: 24 October 2006 02:35 pm |
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hiiii, its really gud to lose extra be coz itz d cause of many other problems.I had lost 10lbs in 2wks. I am now at around 18 lbs. Acc. to me doet pills are the effective way to lose weight,These diet pills eliminate you hunger and force your body to burn the extra fat and help you to reduce fat in a healthy way
xxx for more types of diet pills.....
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btowns911
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Posted: 24 October 2006 10:44 pm |
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gracy...
which pill did you lose this on... what was your diet and exercise routine like, while on this pill?
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Peter
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Posted: 27 October 2006 07:32 am |
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Sorry IndecentOpinion, but gracy was just trying to sell diet pills. And not very clever, at that. Her e-mail address matched the website she was sending you to.
Don't be impressed with losing 10 lb in two weeks. It's what you keep off that matters.
Also be sure you don't look to pills for the solution to weight loss. If you find them an aid, great. But you can't spend your life eating poorly and (trying to) compensate with pills.
Your post was a good idea and I hope you get some good replies.
Peter
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NevD
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Posted: 27 October 2006 09:33 am |
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10 pounds in 2 weeks was certainly not all body fat anyway - even if it were true...
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rajju077
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Posted: 14 November 2006 02:19 am |
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| 10 pounds in 2 weeks is tooo much!! why put your body thru so much #%@&!? slow and steady is the best. I know cause, i have done weight loss twice.
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bikinikill
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Posted: 25 February 2007 09:23 am |
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Hi,
i just joined this forum (like an hour ago), and i'm liking it so far.., there are lots of great info here.
anyway, right now, i'm on phentermine (15mg, lowest dose), which is a prescription pill. it's working very well for me so far.., i started on january 6th at 249lbs, and last time i weighed, i was 227lbs. the first week, i lost 14lbs, but i know that was mostly water weight, because i've always had problem w/ bloating. after that, i've been losing around 3-5lbs, every 2 weeks. i have this really good bariatrics dr. that i see every 2 weeks, and that's the only time i weigh myself.
ok, but would i recommend this pill to everyone? probably not... it might be an option for some though..
phentermine is a type of amphetamine so it can be addictive.., especially for those who already have addiction problems. also, it has lots of side effects..., i've been tolerating it well though, but like i said, i'm on the lowest dose.., i only get dry mouth, which is fine, because it forces me to drink a lot of water. this pill is working well for me, because i don't really have an addictive personality... i mean, i've never been obsessive with my weight and what and how much i ate (haha, that's why i'm overweight i guess).. i just needed something to help control my appetite and cravings while trying to get used to a healthier lifestyle.
here's some info about phentermine, from wikipedia... ht tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phentermine
my dr. says phentamine is meant to used for a short time, while i learn how to eat properly and exercise. and that's exactly what i've been doing. the dr. put me on a 1500-1600cal/day diet, with mostly whole grains, lean meats, lots of fruits BUT no sugar, and no carbonated drinks (not even "diet). the main thing is, i can have carbs for breakfast and lunch, but not dinner and bedtime snack... after lunch, i can only have lean proteins and vegetables. i also have to exercise at least 30min a day, which i have been doing. i just walked for the first 6 weeks, and on monday, i started Turbo Jam (love it!).
when i first started taking phentermine, i started reading on the phentermine forum (phentermine.com), and it's scary how a lot of people there are so addicted! there's people who's been taking it for years, and a lot of them are ordering it online, without a prescription! and a lot of the dr's they're seeing put them on the highest dosage to begin with, and a lot of them are put on a 500cal diets, and they combine phentermine with OTHER drugs... a lot are talking about phen-pro combination.., phentermine + prozac.., supposedly keeps the phentermine working better, longer... scary stuff.......
anyway, another month and a half, and i'll be off this drug... by then, hopefully, i'm accustomed to my new lifestyle.
anyway, i'd like to apologize for my long post.... i'm usually a lurker, and i rarely say much on forums.., i usually just like to read them. but it's past 2am, and i tend to "talk" a lot when i'm tired.. :PLast edited on 25 February 2007 11:42 am by
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smallworld256
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Posted: 29 May 2007 08:19 pm |
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| I have tried several but kept switching 'cuz it didn't last long. Now I'm on Zylorin, but have started for 2 weeks only, and I hope this will be it, I am sick of having to switch around. Last edited on 29 May 2007 09:04 pm by
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Peter
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Posted: 4 June 2007 03:23 am |
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smallworld256,
What are you looking for in a diet pill? What would you like it to do for you?
I'd like to better understand why people turn to pills at all.
Thanks,
Peter
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Myplanet43
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Posted: 4 June 2007 11:46 pm |
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| I have taken Adipex off and on for yrs. It is not suppose to be addictive, but I do know that you get a tolerance to it. It gets to where it doesn't work very well and I have to stop taking it for 2 or 3 months. I take it because it ups my metabolism. Anyone know of a better one?
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gamecocks82
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Posted: 24 June 2007 08:24 am |
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I've been taking Hoodia for a few months now and I lost 15 pounds the first few weeks and have been able to keep it off since then. I started eating a lot better too, and the Hoodia helps me curb my appetite. I probably could have lost more weight but I'm happy where I'm at and now I take it regularly just to maintain my current weight.
Good luck!
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jeni
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Posted: 30 August 2007 04:16 pm |
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gamecocks82 wrote: I've been taking Hoodia for a few months now and I lost 15 pounds the first few weeks and have been able to keep it off since then. I started eating a lot better too, and the Hoodia helps me curb my appetite. I probably could have lost more weight but I'm happy where I'm at and now I take it regularly just to maintain my current weight.
Good luck!
During my research about Proactol diet pills and I've found post of aslack about Hoodia. After a small research I've found review about Hoodia.
can you tell me which brand did you used?
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Paulette
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Posted: 15 September 2007 01:38 am |
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| I prefer exercising and dieting alone without using pills but since each body is different then I'm pretty sure each one responds to different diet pills in their own way. Of course some are generally more effective. Last edited on 15 September 2007 04:29 am by
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zuzu
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Posted: 9 October 2007 12:19 pm |
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I just wanted to share this success with you. My brother who is obese has been taking Acomplia for now two weeks. Yesterday when he weighed himself, he found that he has lost 10 pds. I was totally bewildered. His starting weight was 240 and he had low obviously dropped to 230 pds. I still can’t believe it. Are there some of you who are taking the Acomplia pills??
That stuff works guys I never believed that it could be ever possible but it is and now I'm considering it as well. I think that I am finally going to opt for medication too.
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Peter
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Posted: 9 October 2007 08:10 pm |
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zuzu,
Please don't think I'm being negative with this comment, but please let us know how he's doing as time goes on. Update us as often as you like, though I would think it would become meaningful after maybe three months.
Also remember that unless he plans to take the pills for the rest of his life (whatever they are... I'm not familiar with them) he will have to learn how to eat well to maintain his weight loss. Or his weight will come back.
That's that catch that confuses me about how pills can be helpful in the long run.
Keep us posted!
Peter
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PinkkLady
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Posted: 14 November 2007 10:33 pm |
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I think in most cases people are looking for a jumpstart and not necessarily the "be all end all". I think as long as people know the risks associated with diet pills and implement all the "other" tools associated with weight loss (i.e. proper nutrition, exercise) then they have a really great chance achieving weight loss success without the need for more diet pills in the future. It's the mindset that's important here and nothing is more damaging to the mindset than constant weight loss failure. I certainly don't advocate diet pills whatsoever, but I understand why some people might choose to go down that road.
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Posted: 14 November 2007 10:58 pm |
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Well said!
Peter
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notjohnmurtha
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Posted: 22 November 2007 12:33 am |
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ello, newbie here. I think I found this forum a bit late but still I would like to share my experience. I used Slim-30 and had very pleasing results and no side effects. All in all I lost about 20 lbs which put me well under weight. The pills are a bit expensive: $60 for 30 pills but if you do a bit of research you can get them for lower $50's.
-John
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Posted: 27 November 2007 08:30 am |
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I've tried a few different types of pills, but I found two that really worked for me. Oddly enough they aren't real diet pills as much as they are stay-awake pills.
The first one was called Swarms. They were the 2nd type of Yellow Jackets that people use as caffeine pills. I found out through a friend that they actually curbed the appetite at the same time. Tried them out and it was true. Yes, it would give me an energy kick, but that was a good thing since I was able to get out and have more energy to actually exercise after work instead of slump down on the couch.
The other ones were Green Tea pills. I loved these, but only one drawback, they gave me heartburn. They did great for the beginning of my diet, but sure enough as soon as I would go to bed at night, the heartburn would start. It took a while before I realized it was the pills, but within a day or two after I stopped taking them, it was gone, so that was that.
Both of these were great for the start of my dieting. BUT after I lost the first 15 lbs or so, I just quit taking them realizing that if I couldn't do it on my own now, I never would. Pills do help when you need a little push, but you'll never do any good if you are taking them for the long run.
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Angel44
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Posted: 5 January 2008 09:12 pm |
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A few months ago I purchased Ultra 90 AM & PM. I used it for awhile but stopped taking it because I couldn't fit exercise in to my daily routine (required with these pills). Now that I am doing the Weight Loss Challenge I've started taking them again because I am able to exercise now.
Now I will see how and if they work. I've only heard GREAT results IF you diet and exercise which I think goes hand in hand with every diet pill.
Angel44
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AndyT
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Posted: 15 February 2008 11:06 pm |
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I have read that zantrex 3 pill work for people who want to shed 10-15 pounds but not for real overweight. Is there any one who tried it?
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SingleMom
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Posted: 4 March 2008 02:30 pm |
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IndecentOpinion wrote: A lot of us have given mini-reviews of numerous diet pills and their effects, but I'm curious to know what everyone's top picks are for what has worked best for you.
Hi everybody! I also thought about trying a weight loss pill to get rid of my overweight. I did a very good research I think and I have talked to quite many people about this topic. Finally I thought about taking kioslim. Does anybody know this weight loss pill or has anyone even tried that pill?
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bgpokerman
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Posted: 6 March 2008 03:28 am |
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I personally cannot take any uppers to lose weight, but they seem to be the most popular when you go into GNC. I think I almost had a stroke when taking Ripped Fuel and went for a jog. My head felt like it was going to explode.
Now I have been sampling different natural weight loss pills based on what ingredients I think had some pretty good research backing them. Hoodia got so expensive and is too hard to tell if you were really getting ripped off by fake stuff.
Caralluma Fimbriata is in the same family of plant and is said to do more than just suppress appetite...like block enzymes that store fat and balance blood sugar. It worked on me, but it won't work for everyone. I think like 83% of people are affected by it.
I think the studies on it are on the FDA site when a company tried to register their extract of it. Here it is: http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/DOCKETS/95s0316/95s-0316-rpt0252-05-Caralluma-Fimbriata-Extract-vol184.pdf
The thing is that nothing safe works great unless you change you lifestyle and eating habits for life. Exercise with something like this might be pretty effective.
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lmetayer
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Posted: 10 March 2008 06:09 pm |
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Hello I have tried a few:
Stacker 2's before the ephedra was taken out they worked at keeping me from wanting to eat and also gave me like mega energy with that and the atkins diet I lost 40 pounds in 2 months however, I wouldn't recommend that diet to anyone cause as soon as you start back with the carbs you put the weight back on and often times a few extra pounds!
I tried Hoodia, that pill did nothing for me either didn't surpress my appitite at all.
I've had Phentramine and ugh whats that other fat blocker ugh I can't think of it but she perscribed the Phentarmine and some fat blocker well they worked okay but that fat blocker oh yeah had some nasty things that went along with them, lets just say passing gas unless you were over a toliet wasn't a good idea! Sorry if that was TMI!
Hydroxy Cut didn't do much for me either!
My husband has some put out by MPH and they have worked to give me energy to do what I need to do to work out and take care of the house, I have a total lack of energy I have been able to do good without anything for my appitite I just have no get up and go.
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idansh
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Posted: 28 March 2008 01:03 pm |
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Sorry for that but hoodia gordonii did alot for me, that varies probably from person to person. many swear that hoodia works for them, I tried hoodia for 3.5 months with very good results, What hoodia product have you chosen btw, maybe it wasnt pure hoodia ?
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justinbowness15
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Posted: 28 March 2008 02:59 pm |
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| Hi guys, has anyone tried liporexin, its apparently big in the USA, im thinking of trying it
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Posted: 25 April 2008 08:10 am |
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This article speaks about the same:
http://forweightloss.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/acomplia-shows-modest-weight-loss/
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Posted: 26 April 2008 07:14 pm |
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I can honestly say, I tried pretty much anything available. always looking for an easy fix. a bottle of xenadrine (when it still contained ephedrine) here, a little phen there. I didnt wanna know better and I'm sure it wasn't good for my health. any of it.
that was, until 3 years ago. when I decided, I wanted to get fit and most importantly stay that way. since starting the whole process was where I always failed (coze it takes sooo darn long to really see improvements when you're obese) I asked a good friend who happens to be a medical sports doctor, if there was a kind of "helper" to get me going.
he prescribed reductil (it's called meridia in the US, but any sibutramine derivativ will do). personally, I've never experience anything more powerful, in any sense. it kept me focused on my training regime, I was never hungry or had any cravings, it even got me into seafood and fruits again. junk food just tasted awful for me during that 4 months period and I drank water like never before. I was more energetic and lasted longer while doing cardio.
reductil helped me lose my first 30kg in 4 short months. I know, this is highly accelerated and I need to mention, this pill wont do you no good if you're not using the time you're on it to change your ways of life so you'll stick to the changes once off reductil. otherwise it's coming right back. well, naturally.
also, it messes with your brain's chemistry to achieve all the above and it doesnt always work as successful for everyone. but it's a powerful drug and even though I didnt have any negative sidefx, friends of mine did. some minor, some a bit more obvious.
nevertheless, it was the perfect kick-start helper for me.
just thought I'd share.
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Posted: 30 April 2008 02:27 am |
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You are talking about Xenical..that was the stuff that blocks the fat from being absorbed and it goes, "Right through you.." yuck. I took that when I was 18....I know, I know.
Now, a smaller dosage of Xenical is being sold as Alli...
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Posted: 30 April 2008 02:28 am |
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| You're thinking of Xenical...
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Posted: 30 April 2008 03:29 am |
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I am trying a new product called Ximo, an ephedra mango flavored drink. It really stops my appetite and is perfect for my workouts! No one knows about it yet.
It tastes so good it hard not to drink more than the 2oz 1-2x daily of the 16oz bottle! I need to lose 10lbs and want my 6 pack back! I think it's related to sugar is what I'm reading these days. I wonder how a person can stop eating sugar products so late? If I take the drink late, it may keep me up...
~Gary
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Posted: 12 May 2008 06:48 pm |
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I am taking Ximo too! 2 ounces a day. The first week I started on Ximo I lost 5 pounds and 1" in my waist. Ximo tastes like mangos, its yummy. I have to be careful not to drink to much its so good  Ximo has made me feel energized so now I feel like walking again. I am dropping the fat I am really happy
Trish
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Kirch
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Posted: 12 May 2008 09:46 pm |
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I hear ya Trish, it's the best, product is out big time around June 1 '08,
until then it's wide open, know one knows about it:
~Gary
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Posted: 12 May 2008 09:53 pm |
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Gary how are you doing on the Ximo?
Lost weight? Gained muscle? Increased endurance?
Trish
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Posted: 21 May 2008 06:35 am |
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Have anybody heard a slimming product called DAIDAIHUA slimming? Is there someone tried this ?
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Posted: 21 May 2008 08:34 am |
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Hey Trish! Yes, workouts on Ximo have me way up in endurance and able to push much harder. I am leaning up good! At a 4 pack now, was a weak 2 pack just a couple weeks ago. Full sixer in another 2 weeks at this pace, that's nothing on the sides and fully defined.
Right now, 3 runs/wk 10mi w/ sprints, 7-12mi w/hills, with one good upper body w/o on the 2-4mi fast run day with 10-30min on the heavy bag, 1 cycle day, around 1:30 flats/hills standing 1/2hr up pushing for time the whole way, 1 day in the pool 4-5 under water sessions increased from 2 laps w/4 breaths to now 6-7 laps already and 4 full lap sessions w/limited breathing time, 45min total.
By increasing speed and efficiency of each of these workouts, I'm becoming a better machine, less fat, more lean tissue, better oxygen uptake, also stretching.
Also use full nutritional liquid supplementation, as a tool, Ximo allows me to subtract more bad things and add more good things to my diet, therefore increasing the overall success cycle. Plus oral chelation.
Honestly, with Ximo, it truly gets me going, I easily notice the better oxygen uptake since ephedra is a known bronchial and vasodilator. I use it as a tool for workouts and an oz is all it takes in the afternoon to help with appetite suppression.
Why struggle? Use a healthy alternative to all the junk energy drinks out there, it's hard to even believe a serious athlete would drink one of those for a better workout when you could have Ximo!
For leaning up, losing sizes, curbing the appetite-especially for sugar-which is the real enemy, Ximo IS the tool.
~Gary
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Posted: 29 May 2008 11:03 pm |
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I have used many diet pills like hydroxycut advanced, hydroxycut max, hydroxycut hardcore, xenadrine, xenadrine nrg, xenadrine superhardcore, nutrex lipo, nutrex lipo 6x, Biotest Hot rox, hot rox max, lean system 7 and duromine.
The best by far is Duromine. But this is a doctore precribed pill only. You better check it out first before taking it. If not, I would definately go for Nutrex Lipo 6x!
Its the best!!
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Posted: 30 May 2008 12:33 am |
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There are many good "diet" pills on the market and many bad ones too.
It has alot to do with how sensitive you are to stimulants such as caffeine, ephedrine, ma-huang, guarana..the list is long. If you can't handle such stimulants then diet pills might be too much for you
Also if you are currently on any diet pill that contains stimulants, it's best to try cycling them ..in other words don't take them every day, 7 days a week because your adrenal glands may become exhausted and stop functioning which is a big problem.
Try taking them every other day or 3-4 days out of the week with the remaining days off
Give yourself a two week break from diet pills after taking them for more than 2 months.
Your body needs rest as much as it needs to be pushed!
Respect your body and it won't shut down or rebound on you!!
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Posted: 31 May 2008 12:03 am |
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| VENOM 3.0 Hyperdrive works! I didn't even excercise or diet!I also have 3 friends on it and they have all lost at least 30 lbs. I lost 20 lbs on it but my body has gotten use to it so I switched for now. I know that's sooooooo bad but after 3 years and going from 320 to 200 with strict dieting. I am tired of it. Right now, I'm taking phentermine D and that works too kills cravings but i am trying to stick to 1500 calories daily still no excercise though. Attached Image (viewed 6096 times):
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Posted: 18 June 2008 04:13 pm |
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Well, it's hard to say because what worked for me (and continues to work!) is not marketed as a diet pill. It's over the counter and generic (and cheap).
Sorry to be so cryptic but if I say what it is there will be not so much incentive to buy my book! lol!
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| Hi I am a mom of 2 children, a 2 year old and a 6 month old, and my kids are 20 months apart. Needless to say that I did not have the time to lose all the baby weight from my first pregnancy when I got pregnant the second time. I have always struggled with my weight and have tried every diet known to mankind. One of my friends turned me on to this new diet pill, originally from France called Reduxial. Of course I watch what I eat and take my kids out for walks around the block but this pill has saved me! I have been using it for 1.5 months and I've lost 13 pounds and going!!!
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Posted: 20 June 2008 05:48 am |
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I've seen weight loss products come and go, but to this day, nothing has ever beat ephedra. It's the only product that has people saying, "The fat is melting off me!"
I've been on Ximo getting leaner by the day and watching people who have tried it all... nothing beats ephedra. This new Ximo ephdera drink is the best I've ever tried.
Ordering is no jitters like the old stuff but the same appetite suppression, workouts... go drink 2oz and clean the house, etc. Belt loops and dress sizes I think is what I hear most... it seems to change the way a persons body looks, their shape or something, hard to explain.
~Gary
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Posted: 20 June 2008 03:53 pm |
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| I am usually very weary about taking any kind of dietary supplements but what I love about REduxial is tha fact that it's all natural. I even showed it to my DR who approved it so in that respect, I feel safer. Also, so far, I have been very happy with the results.
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OnceUpon-A-ThinGirl
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| So far I have tried a lot of products and have found no magic pill, but then again I'm an over-eater and that has everything to do with my head, no fix for that lol.
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| can someone ban this kirch idiot? spamming is beyond annoying. besides, ephedra is not a product, it's a plant. and ephedrine or any ephedra derivative is banned in the US and most other countries from being an OTC item.
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Posted: 22 June 2008 06:09 am |
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Hey loungebob... easy to sit there and flame away... ban yourself, the plant works and had 12 million users in '03, it is not banned, sorry to inform you... speaking of idiot... got nothing else to do?
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Posted: 22 June 2008 12:30 pm |
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well, since I dont usually call people idiots, I'm inclined to take this back.
it's funny thou, how you and trish pop up on other forums doing your tag-team promoting of ximo. I uphold the spam acquisation.
however, you are right, ephedra based products are not banned in the US. I seem to have lost track when it was being discussed by the FDA.
nevertheless, the chinese know of the potency of ma huang for a long, long time. even they just use it for chinese medicine related issues like trying to speed up the process of a flu. they're cautious enough to treat it with the proper respect.
but they're also very nifty business people and developed products containing ma huang (or ephedra for us) for export to the chronically overweight and stupidly underdeveloped sense of reason folks in the big US of A.
ximo does a poor job on their site to promote sustainability in weight loss. of course they do, it's not really in their best interests. after all, only repeating customers are guaranteeing them a steady stream of revenue.
they mention changing your diet and workout regime with one sentence but have plenty of space to promote ingredients and their positive effects but none to caution against the heavy downsides of ephedra or octopamine. both increase blood pressure drastically - read the harvard medical journal on ephedra extracts, or google.
besides, it has been proven by numerous, in the medical community highly regarded, sources that ephedra does the poorest job ever to reach sustainable weight loss.
certain combinations - such as the ECA stack - are highly effective in losing weight fast, but at a very hight risk to your health and still with no sustainability.
I do understand the need to make money, even fast, and there will always be naiive people to buy most anything that appeals to the lowest denominator but if you're not associated with ximo or have a franchise to sell it, I dont understand why you're not more realistic and unbiased.
there's always to sides to the coin, the question is, which side has the prettier face.
Last edited on 22 June 2008 12:31 pm by loungebob
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Kirch
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Posted: 22 June 2008 04:14 pm |
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Yes loungebob, you are onto us. Great detective work, also on the how the ancient herb was and is used.
Back in those old days, you see, they didn't have much of a weight problem... not a lot of sugar, the main culprit, and fast/processed foods were a bit scarce (didn't hear much about bbq during the Ming dynasty). Well... these days IT'S (bad foods) highly promoted for money (you wouldn't do that would you), we have a job to do, besides hourly wages, which is noble (I've done all that, and more than most).
Just because ephedra also has other great properties is a cool plus, thanks. No matter what Ximo put on their site, you wouldn't be happy, we know that. But for every person who dislikes the idea in one form or another, there are many who do/will. Go promote vioxx or celebrex, tobacco which kills vast numbers. We are promoting health only and making very little in comparison.
Once again, you go with the media who has brainwashed many. Yes, if someone takes large amounts, it can maybe be harmful... just like anything else. Raising blood pressure? How about bringing the weight down safely of a diabetic and getting them off the poison? How about taking off 20lbs of pure fat while increasing lean mass and actually lowering blood pressure? Happens all the time.
Keep your medical journals and stick to your pharmaceuticals then loungebob, they are "highly regarded" all the way to your grave. "Lowest denominator" wow, you're brilliant and tough, jealous too, good combo. In some cases network marketing has done it wrong. Just like any other way to make money. However, we change lives for the better with this product and take a small amount for ourselves, keep your day job then, but don't be envious that we do nothing wrong and get to stay home. Realistic and unbiased? Of course I am!
The facts are, we do no harm, help people with their addictions to disgusting foods, make them feel so much better about themselves, extend the quality and quantity of lives, make very little per serving especially when compared to buying in stores, and give time freedom to those who want more than the time clock in life.
Gee, which side of the coin here... hummmmm... tough one...
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Posted: 23 June 2008 04:42 pm |
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let's just agree to disagree. since we have something called free will, everyone should do how they see fit.
btw, it's almost impossible to lose bodyfat and increase lean tissue mass at the same time. unless you're an almost pure mesomorph and even then it's very, very rare.
I do however agree with you, that one should balance risks and benefits. losing weight in an obese person is always a good thing and comes with tons of health benefits. those need to be measured against the short and longer term side effects of whatever helper you take.
I guess this was my inital point that might not have come across very clearly; in a prescription drug, all side effects are listed clearly. in my country even in order of the percentage of occurance and severity. OTC stuff is less regulated and most of the times a lot less documented. I really do think, ximo should do a better job in openly state what possible side effects ephedra products can have and push strongly for a permanent behavioral shift in its customer base.
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