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Lo
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Posted: 5 July 2006 08:36 pm |
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I know that the chicken has to be boneless and skinless, but I was wondering if you can cook the chicken with the bone and skin and then only eat the white meat?
I have a really good, really easy crockpot recipe for chicken that would be nice to use on "chicken" days, but I think it might be too dry if I just put boneless skinless breasts in the crockpot alone. It's just a spice mixture that you make up and rub on the chicken and then you cook it in the crockpot the next day.
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Peter
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Posted: 6 July 2006 08:33 am |
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My non-educated guess...
First, I can't imagine the bone matters at all. If you don't choke on it, you could eat it! Just kidding.
It's the skin that is full of fat of course, and I'm sure it would be fine however you cook it just so you don't eat the skin. I'm sure the chicken would be a little greasier cooked with the skin, but that's getting pretty fussy.
However, I always buy boneless skinless chicken breasts and if I cook them slowly they are always moist. So I'd just try it without the skin.
Maybe someone who actually knows how to cook will give you some better info. ;)
Peter
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Lo
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Posted: 6 July 2006 09:02 am |
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Thank you, I didn't think it would really matter but I wasn't sure. I think I'll just do it my usual way, and leave the skin on for cooking. I'm all for NOT cooking one dinner for myself and another for the rest of my family. :)
If anyone is interested, the recipe is for
STICKY CHICKEN
4 tsp salt
2 tsp paprika
1 tsp cayenne pepper
1 tsp onion powder
1 tsp thyme
1 tsp white pepper
1/2 tsp garlic powder
1/2 tsp black pepper
Mix everything together and rub on raw chicken. Let it sit overnight in the fridge. Cook in crockpot on LOW for 8 to 10 hours.
I usually make this with bone in chicken breasts. I have heard of using a whole chicken but haven't tried that myself yet. I might try it this week. I would probably add a small amount of water to the crockpot if using boneless skinless breasts. The rub is pretty spicy, be sure to not overload the chicken with it if you do not care for super spicy food. The obove recipe makes enough rub for me to use it more than once.
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dawgfan1
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Posted: 6 July 2006 09:03 pm |
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| The chicken recipe sounds great! I have cooked a whole chicken in the crockpot, and don't recommend it. The chicken is very moist and tasty, but since the meat "falls off" the bones, the small bones are difficult to remove.
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Lo
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Posted: 6 July 2006 09:08 pm |
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Yes, the chicken is really good. I highly recommend it.
Thanks for letting me know about the whole chicken in the crockpot problem, I definitely don't want to be picking apart chicken looking for tiny bones all night. 
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Paint-Mom
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Posted: 12 July 2006 06:11 pm |
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I'd just go through the line -- and nibble! Only take a very small portion of the items that will least sabotage your efforts. I have been to receptions that I know I have to stay away from the table -- and I just politely say "I can't eat today" or "Thanks, but "I'm fasting". Really family can be the worst in trying to get you off your plan -- but with a sweet smile!! tell them your stickin' to YOUR plan! and have a great day.
Bless your 
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beckers
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Posted: 16 July 2006 01:24 am |
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Hey all!!
Im thinking about starting this diet, but i am not totally sure about it. Is it healthy? I have tried everything from LAW, to WW, to calorie counting and watching my carbs, nothing seems to work, well, i lose weight somewhat but im sooo hungry i end up binge eating...:(
I really need something different, i like the idea of having 3 cheat days too...lol. That perks me the most... How exactly does it work? 11 days on 3 days off? you get to pick your foods? Please let me know.. i have read the website but im not willing to pay unless im absolutely sure... thanks
Becky:yumm:
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Peter
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Posted: 16 July 2006 01:57 am |
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Becky,
I'll let others that know about FL4I answer about that, but as for your past failures... I think many of the reasons for your failures will be addressed on this page in the tutorial:
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/tutorial_all.html
Peter
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Dobie
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Posted: 19 July 2006 09:43 pm |
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SusieK wrote: I'm a new Idiot, and just about to begin the 11-day cycle.
Living in France, I've no idea where to find oat bread. Does anybody know of a recipe, preferably suitable for baking in a bread machine, please?
I have looked and searched and not found one either. :(
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Dobie
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Posted: 19 July 2006 10:14 pm |
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beckers wrote: Hey all!!
Im thinking about starting this diet, but i am not totally sure about it. Is it healthy? I have tried everything from LAW, to WW, to calorie counting and watching my carbs, nothing seems to work, well, i lose weight somewhat but im sooo hungry i end up binge eating...:(
I really need something different, i like the idea of having 3 cheat days too...lol. That perks me the most... How exactly does it work? 11 days on 3 days off? you get to pick your foods? Please let me know.. i have read the website but im not willing to pay unless im absolutely sure... thanks
Becky:yumm:
Hey, Becky. Welcome to the board. Many seem to be on vacation or like us, we are just not active right now. But drop back by and we will help where we can. :D
I think this diet is extremely healthy. My wife and I are in great shape (now) with low cholesterol and much lighter than before. 11 days the foods are put in a menu for you that you can eat in any order. For the three days, you can eat what you like, but you have to watch the quantities as always. As Jayelle points out, this is a way of eating (WOE) for us and it continues on or off diets. It is just plain smart.
Read Peter's tips here: http://www.caloriesperhour.com/tips.html. They align very well with this diet (or vice versa).
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aislinga
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Posted: 19 July 2006 11:16 pm |
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found this on the web, don't know if it is what you are looking for.
Oat bran adds fibre to this delicious bread. You may leave out the gluten but the bread will be denser. Makes a 2 lb. loaf. Recipe from Donna German. 1 1/3 cups water 2 1/2 tablespoons butter or margarine 1/4 cup sugar 1 teaspoon salt 2/3 cup oat bran 2/3 cup oats 3 cups bread flour 2 tablespoons vital wheat gluten (optional) 2 1/2 teaspoons yeast 12 servings 1 loaf Change to: loaf US Metric 4 hours 5 minutes 5 min prep
- Add ingredients to bread machine pan in order given, or according to your machine instructions.
- Set on whole wheat cycle.
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SusieK
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Posted: 20 July 2006 12:22 am |
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Thanks very much for the recipe, I'll give it a try. :)
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sammi miami
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Posted: 23 July 2006 08:49 am |
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I am just wondering... if you only have about 10lbs to lose can it still be lost as rapidly as 11 days? Or even in two cycles of the diet? I hope so!
Second, I was wondering if any of you dedicated "WL4I" veterans hate the name of this diet as much as I do. I can't speak for the non-veggie version, but my version is decently balanced and the weight loss advice they offer is sound. So why did they have to go giving it such a "scam"-my name?! They make it virtually impossible for you to recommend this diet to your friends without embarrassment!
Anyway, hope to hear some encouragement from you. I've just gained 10lbs thanks to the stress of a move (a move which also took me away from my favorite yoga studio :() and am hoping I can get it off in 11 days! Since I feel like I packed it on in 11 days!
sammy
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Jayelle
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Posted: 24 July 2006 02:19 am |
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Hey Sammi and Welcome. Ya know, the name of the diet doesn't bother me. I think about it like this, all those whatever for dummies books are very successful and people aren't embarassed to say they use those so why should this be any different?
I didn't tell any of my friends about the plan until I actually had lost some weight with it. I just told them I was watching what I ate and was being more careful when making food choices.
Also, I don't know how quickly you can expect to take off the ten pounds, but I do know that this eating plan gets results. Keep in mind though that on the first cycle most of what you lose will be water weight. Be sure to drink your daily 10 glasses or 80 ounces. It is very important.
Okay, enough of that. Good Luck with those sneaky ten pounds.
Jayelle
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pommedownunder
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Posted: 4 August 2006 12:53 am |
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I too have not a great deal to loose about 16 Lb would do nicely. How are you going you must have completed your first rotation now, how much did you loose. I have also put on alot of weight from a move from the UK to Australia so as you can imagine that was very stressful and stress = food.
Have you done the new diet plan or the old. I am struggling withy how much cheese and nuts to eat, I feel that they are so high in cals but so nice at the same time.
Good luck and let me know how you are doing.
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sammi miami
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Posted: 6 August 2006 10:05 pm |
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| I haven't lost anything! In fact, I put on 2lbs! How are you doing????
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pommedownunder
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Posted: 7 August 2006 12:42 am |
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I'm not not too well either I'm on day 7 and so far I've lost 2.5 Lb which isn't great. I'm sure that I am eating too many nuts and too much cheese but that's what my plan is telling me to eat. Today is my veggie day so I will see what happens tomorrow. what type of foods have you been eating?
I'm pretty sure I will go back to weight watches next week because if I'm really good I can loose the same ammount in a week and have alot more freedom. One thing it has taught me though is I can manage with much smaller portion size.
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jillybean720
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Posted: 22 August 2006 03:28 pm |
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Hey everyone! I'm new to this site, but certainly not new to forums, dieting, or the Idiot Proof Diet. I signed up and printed out the menus for the plan last summer, so I am on the old plan. Obviously, I no longer have access to the site (my 90 days were up loooong ago!), but I have a bunch of the menus I had printed out that I am following again. I don't, however, seem to have the recipe for the banan milkshake that appears on a couple of my menus. Does anyone have the old banana milkshake recipe? Is it just banana and milk?
I have already completed my first cycle of this plan (well, my first since re-starting it), and I lost 10.25 pounds in that first 11 days. I know I have a LOT further than most of you to go (I weigh about 290), so I know as I lose weight, the weight loss will slow down, but it sure was encouraging (even though it was likely mostly water).
I also haven't followed the plan completely perfectly. For my "chicken" meals, I actually have a Lean Cuisine or SmartOnes frozen entree--any flavor of just chicken and veggies (I choose the low-carb entrees so there is no pasta or potatoes or anything). I also do have tartar sauce with my fish, but I make it myself--just fat-free mayo and sweet relish. Until finding this site, I couldn't remember if you could have buns with the hotdogs, so to be safe, I didn't--I ate them just cut up with some fat-free mayo and barbecue sauce.
I'm making sure to also take a mulit-vitamin every day, plus a calcium supplement since there's no milk allowed on the old plan. I do use about a tablespoon of milk when I make eggs for breakfast, and I do add cheese to some meals (reduced fat shredded mozzarella or cheddar). For the ground turkey meals, I sometimes eat lean turkey sausage (small ones are great for breakfast links, and large ones are great to add to sauce when the meal is "ground turkey and pasta with sauce").
My first 3 off-menu days were pretty insane--I gained back quite a bit (thanks to friends like Pizza Hut and Ben and Jerry  ), but much of it should leave rather quickly since it's likely due to an increase in processed foods (and, therefore, sodium, causing water retention). In fact, 2 of my off-menu pounds were lost just after the first day of returning to the menus. I'm now on my second day of my second cycle, and as long as I end up lower than I was on the last day of my first cycle, then I'll keep it up (err, down?)! 
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jillybean720
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Posted: 24 August 2006 06:16 pm |
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| heh, thanks for nothin', guys, I found it myself while searching for other IPD info
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Noodle
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Posted: 21 September 2006 01:34 am |
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Can we exchange foods as long as they are in the same catagory? Like, instead of tuna, can I have chicken, sea bass or beef?
Also, is it ok to have chicken broth as a snack...something to feel like I am getting more than I am?
Plus, where does everyone go after they post a few time? they give up?
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jillybean720
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Posted: 21 September 2006 05:08 pm |
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Everyone's up in the discussion forum (up at the top)! I've been here for weeks, and some others have come and gone, but they often return. Some people need a break, or some switch to a different weight loss plan, but I don't think very many "give up." 
I think it's fine to switch out foods, so long as it's protein for protein and carb for carb (like you mentioned with the other meats in place of tuna). The idea is to get your calories from certain sources (fat, protein, and carb) in certain combinations, so as long as your exchanges are comparable, I wouldn't worry about it. Sounds like you've got a good grasp on the plan.
As for chicken broth...I would certainly suggest being careful of the amount of sodium. Personally, I buy organic no-salt-added chicken broth, so it practically has no calories, but some broths do have fat and definitely lots of sodium. Maybe a cup of hot diet tea would work?
Are you not eating enough at your meals if you need the chicken broth? I don't ever usually feel hungry between meals. If I do, I drink a diet soda--the carbonation makes me feel full (and I lost 13 pounds in my first cycle, so the soda didn't do much damage!).
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Dobie
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Posted: 21 September 2006 06:43 pm |
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Noodle wrote: Can we exchange foods as long as they are in the same catagory? Like, instead of tuna, can I have chicken, sea bass or beef?
Noodle,
If you are asking if it is allowed by the diet, then no. If you are asking if most of us do substitute like for like, yes. It works for me.
Is Beef a good subsitute for Tuna? No, not in my opinion. Way more fat in beef. Others seem fine.
Also, is it ok to have chicken broth as a snack...something to feel like I am getting more than I am?
I agree with Jill. Why do you need to have this in between when you have four meals a day?
Plus, where does everyone go after they post a few time? they give up? Few say. They just don't show. I have been here nearly a year now.
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Noodle
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Posted: 21 September 2006 08:44 pm |
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Thank you jellybean and Dobie.
I didn't think it would be a problem switching out foods, but wanted confirmation from the pros.
As for the broth, it's organic and no fat, high in sodium though. Good point about even wanting it if I am having 4 meals a day. I am really trying to stick to the "never feeling full". Maybe I am not eating enough.
Noodle
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scotsgirl813
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Posted: 24 September 2006 05:55 am |
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| started day 5 today...already had a 6 pound loss at the end of day 4, won't get into detail but just blew up my diet big time. KABOOM! What do I do? Start back at day 1 or just continue? Any suggestions, would really appreciate it. Thanks
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jillybean720
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Posted: 24 September 2006 04:44 pm |
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hmm...I'm not 100% sure. I think it's completely up to you. If you think you can get right back on track, then I think you should. If you think you eed a break, though, then maybe take 2-3 days off and then start a new cycle. When I "blew up my diet" (heh, I like that phrase), I was in the middle of a cycle, like you, and I know that for me to get back on track, I need very strict guidelines for a while--makes me appreciate being able to eat even healthy normal foods later on--so what I did was finish off the cycle with 4 days (since that's all I had left after my diet explosion) of strictly fruit-and-veggie-based meals. I only ate salads (no meat), fruit, and some all-natural/organic creamy vegetable soups. It helped me because after those 4 days, I was excited again just about things like chicken and lean ground turkey 
But anyway, that's what worked for me--I hope you find whatever works for you
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Noodle
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Posted: 25 September 2006 04:03 am |
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I have tried to find out who created this diet, but cannot find anyone taking responsiblity for it.
Does anyone know?
Thanks
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scotsgirl813
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Posted: 27 September 2006 06:36 pm |
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First off I started lost 6 pounds in 4 days, went crazy on day 5 & 6 (crazy person took over) started back at day 1 3.5 pounds heavier (not bad still down 2.5 from first try) Anyway started back at day 1 on Monday down 4 pounds so very happy. Anyway...here is question;
Has anyone postponed their cheat days by 3-4 days. I have a 3 day conference for work away from home. If I could maybe stay on my cycle for 15 days and then go off for the 3 days it would lign up perfectly with my conference? Has anyone every tried that?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Noodle
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Posted: 27 September 2006 08:50 pm |
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| Hey scotsgirl, great job on the weight loss. I wouldn't think it would be a problem to postpone...but I am new to this diet. maybe someone else will come along with different advice.
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Frankie
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Posted: 28 September 2006 08:11 pm |
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Noodle wrote:
Also, is it ok to have chicken broth as a snack...something to feel like I am getting more than I am?
Hi, somewhere in my handbook or maybe it was at the end of the menus, it said that any beverage that's no more than 10 calories per glass was OK. So I think if your chicken broth falls into that category, it's OK. If it's higher than that, it probably is not a good idea.
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Frankie
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Posted: 29 September 2006 06:05 pm |
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Hi all,
I'm on Day 3 of the new version. I know it may be too early to see results, but one can't help checking. So far I haven't lost anything noticeable. I see some people have results on the first day.
I'm wondering if anyone is having great success with the new version? It seems that many people rave about the old version. I've tried and tried to access it, but I just can't get in. Does anyone know when the new version was introduced?
I'll stick with it, at least for one cycle, but I'm starting to get paranoid! 
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dawgfan1
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Posted: 5 October 2006 01:38 am |
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| I have been on the new version since June. I accessed the old diet and tried it, but went back to the new diet, because there is so much more variety. The old diet has most meals of one item only, and ground turkey day after day after day, and I found it much harder to not cheat. Good luck, and make sure you're getting in all your water and a walk each day.
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pallavi
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Posted: 5 October 2006 07:55 am |
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| I also want to see the recipe of banana shake. i will be thankful if you send me that recipe. Actually one of my good friends is font of banana shake. I wat to know the method of making shake.
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pallavi
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Posted: 5 October 2006 08:08 am |
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You are right ya white meat is really good for health. Sometimes you want to eat dry chicken. Its a good recipe.
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NevD
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Posted: 5 October 2006 03:40 pm |
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I'm vegetarian, so don't really have a vote on this one, but I would imagine that ultra-cheap chicken as sold in supermarkets has been raised in awful, stressful conditions, overfed and killed too young and is not "really good for health".
Organic chicken, raised in traditional conditions, and humanely despatched is probably a whole different broil-game...
Just my 3 cents' worth.
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susanleanne
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Posted: 5 October 2006 10:44 pm |
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jillybean720 - I am curious .... you said your 90 days were up I looked and looked and could not find anything that limited me to 90 days I also paid more than the $27 I see alot of people talking about. I paid $39 USD does that make a difference? TIA!
pallavi - Banana Milkshake - Add the following ingredients into a blender: 1 Large Banana, 6-8 oz. Non Fat Milk, 2-3 Teaspoons Vanilla Extract, Jelly/Jam as a sweetener. That is what my sheet says.
Susan
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Hisgal
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Posted: 6 October 2006 01:56 am |
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| I first paid my $27 for the old plan in June 2005, and I just accessed the site and printed off a new menu to start over again.
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Frankie
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Posted: 7 October 2006 03:02 am |
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I FINALLY managed to get into the old version. As many have mentioned, most meals only have one food, as opposed to the new version, where most meals have two foods and some have three.
There are fewer foods in the old, so a bit more repetition of food from day to day. In general, there seem to be more carbs in the old; there are several sandwiches as opposed to only one. There is the one three-meal day of fruits and vegetables; in the new, there is one all-vegetable day and then the day with three veg meals and a sandwich.
I am going to give the old one a try, precisely because of the sandwiches. I picked menus with no nuts, because it's hard for me to decide to stop eating them. There's also less lunch meat, which again is difficult for me to stop eating. For a sandwich or an omelette, it's pretty clear when to stop, and unless you go overboard in making it in the first place, you should be OK.
Anyway, today was day 10 and I had "frozen yogurt dessert" as part of one of the meals. I kind of went crazy. I am now trying to decide whether I should finish out the old cycle or just start on the new one right away. Technically, I still have one meal to go today, but I'm not hungry. I also maybe should take a break for the weekend and start the new cycle on Monday. I have several social events this weekend, so it's kind of dumb to try to start anything before they're done...but on the other hand, I'm not planning on pigging out (I almost never do; it just happens!  ). I'll just have to see.
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Frankie
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Posted: 7 October 2006 03:10 am |
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Susan - they increased the price for the new version. I paid $39 too. The new version has a much better interface. I could not manage to print the menus on the old version and had to write them out. Same for the FAQs and handbook; but in the new version, there's no problem printing them, including the preparation tips. The new version's handbook is much more extensive, too (and it includes the other "casual" plan that might be worth a try). I guess they were so successful that they figured they could charge more.
Hey, if I lose weight, I don't mind.
I couldn't find any time limit for either the old or the new either. But, just to be on the safe side, I am planning on generating a bunch of menus for both, just in case.
Frankie
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chobesita
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Posted: 10 October 2006 03:30 am |
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I am new to the diet( just bought it on saturday). My weight is 146( and actually is very weird because one week ago I'd weight 150). I tried to start the diet on sunday, and today I was supposed to eat just fruits, and I just have apples, but I cheated (I was very confused. I read in some other forums that this diet does not work, and once you finish the cycle, you regain the all the weight back). Well, I am going so set up another menu, but I am very confused because I just eat 6 of the foods on the left side, and the ask me for seven. I was thinking if I could choose the deli-meat option, but if instead of meat or turkey that could be replaces for chicken?and the bread can be white or it has to be "oat bran". Also, when the fruit day comes can I eat just apples(besides bananas and pineapple is the only fruit I have at home), or should I eat at least another fruit from that group?
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susanleanne
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Posted: 10 October 2006 08:50 am |
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Hi I'm not too sure how much help I'll be I will be starting this week and it will be my first cycle but let me see .....
From what I have read here this WOE works very well and if you don't go overboard on your three cheat days you do not gain all the weight back ... some people have gained nothing others a couple pounds .... the ones that gained lots back admitted to going crazy ... lol
I wouldn't think that eating apples would be enough to sustain you all day. I would think a variety would be better. Perhaps next time you could buy some other fruits for that day.
Don't quote me but again from what i've read I would think substituting chicken would be okay.
As for the bread I have no idea and would love to know the answer as well.
Hope some of this helps and good luck!
Susan
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chobesita
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Posted: 10 October 2006 09:05 pm |
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Thanks susanleanne...I really appreciatte your help!!!
I started it today. I guess , I'll have to go and buy something for my dely-sandwich tomorrow.
I just want to do a cycle, so I suppose that means that won't be any cheat day for me!!
Good luck to you on your diet!!!
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susanleanne
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Posted: 10 October 2006 11:08 pm |
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Glad to hear I was of some help being so new myself and all ......
One other thing you mentioned in your new post about not having any cheat days ... again this is only going on what I have read ..... but I believe they are important before starting a new cycle something to do with your metabolism and resetting it for the next cycle so it works well again .... again no quoting here just trying to remember what I read ... perhaps a senior member can give a little more input.
Good luck and keep me posted ... I am either starting tomorrow or the next day even though that means my cheat days won't fall on a weekend. I wanted to start on a Monday but I don't want to wait that long.
Susan
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Hisgal
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Posted: 11 October 2006 01:42 am |
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chobesita,
I am on the old version of WL4I, so I'm not sure I can be of any help to you. But....check the instructions.....in my version a "mixed fruit plate" is a meal you are to pick at least 3 of a specific list of fruits. Whereas, on my "fruit & vegetable" day, I can pick 3 fruits for one meal, and they can be any fruit.
On my version's home page, you can click on 2 things. One is the "Idiot Proof Diet Generator" and the other is "10 Idiot Proof Rules" Do you have anything like that in the new version? The second one tells you how to do the diet, with you picking the foods, instead of the computer generating the menu for you. But, it also has some guidelines for you to follow on the 4 meals being at least 2 1/2 hrs apart, water drinking, low calories drinks, walking, sweets, etc.
By the way, this diet is kind of high protein, I think. So, be really sure you drink the recommended water, so you don't put strain on your kidneys.
I am using a generated menu, and the "rules" for it are printed out after the food list. In the "rules" to create your own meals, it says the the bread should be "oat or bran type bread only". I stay away from white bread, it has no nutrients left other than what was added back in....all the fiber is gone....it is very processed. Look for things that say "100% whole grain (or wheat, oat, bran). They will also keep you full longer. If you are buying deli meats ( I think I read they are big on the new version-not so on the old version) try to buy the low fat versions and watch the sodium.
Hope that helps a little. It's hard to know with 2 versions floating around out there. Just for inspiration, I am down 9.4 lbs the first week of the first cycle. I know a lot is water weight, but not all of it.....so, I'm happy!
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chobesita
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Posted: 12 October 2006 01:30 am |
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susanleanne!
Thank you for your advice, and good luck with the diet...and keep me informed about your progress!!!
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chobesita
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Posted: 12 October 2006 01:45 am |
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Hi Hisgal!
I have the new version, and it seems to me that the old version is more specific in what kinds of fruits you should be eating. Well, in my version for the fruit day says that the sandwich has to be "regular-sized" (normal slices), but they don't tell me what kind of bread must be, so I make my sandwich with two slices of bread and bologna( but I am not sure if that is considered as a deli-meat). This from the "diet generator", and about the fruits they say you can use any of the list fo teh fruits, but they don't say whether you have to eat thrre or mre opcions from the "fruit opcions"...so I ate apples today because that was the only fruit I had available! I hope that's ok....hopefully, I won't mess up my whole diet...but I've been all the day ou , and I did not have the chance to arrage all my food...
Thank you for the help, I guess I'll have to start all over again!
Congratulations on your lost!!!!!!.....I hope you drop all the weight you need !!!
Last edited on 12 October 2006 01:47 am by chobesita
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Frankie
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Posted: 1 November 2006 07:41 pm |
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In the new version, in the handbook, the FL4I describe their other weight loss plan. It's similar to the one you get from the diet generator, only they don't tell you what exact foods to eat each day, just whether they should be protein, carb, or mixed protein/carb. The diet is 10 days long and there are no cheat days. Otherwise, the rules are pretty much the same. Anyone tried this?
Frankie
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blazing
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Posted: 2 November 2006 06:58 am |
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I would really like to know on fish and chicken meal times is it just all you can eat fish or chicken?
can I have veggies with it or not?
Last edited on 2 November 2006 07:00 am by blazing
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Sibley
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Posted: 4 November 2006 12:53 am |
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Sammi,
Did you end up losing any weight?
I am skeptical of the "ability" to lose 5 or more pounds in one week that isn't 90% water--especially if you don't have that much to lose in the first place!
Also, who and where is the maker of this plan???
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laladias
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Posted: 9 November 2006 01:38 am |
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HI everybody.
I know the issue of the new vs. old menu has been discussed many times around here, but one thing is not clear to me yet.
I'm about to start the diet for the first time tomorrow and aparently the menu that was given to me was the OLD one.. ( the one which is allowed pasta, hamburger, etc )...
One question though: Since I'm a new member at the diet, wasn't I suppost to get the new version menu ?
How can I download the new one instead ?
I appreciate your help.
Thanks.
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spryte22
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Posted: 11 November 2006 04:49 am |
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| I noticed that these menus don't have the recommended daily servings that nutritionists suggest or whatever. What are some ideas about this? I do not have the book or anything, but only 3 menus for three 11 day sets. I am curious if we actually need what we are being told or if this diet is actually unhealthy.
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